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T O P I C R E V I E WRandallSo, Mueller indicted 13 Russian individuals and companies thinking they wouldn't show up, because he needed Russian scapegoats. Well, one did show up and demanded proof! Mueller protested. He indicted them by falsely using the Grand Jury process, but Mueller has no evidence to prosecute! The judge wouldn't hear excuses. And the Russian corporation has Discovery requests. Mueller is a hack. jwhop quote:Originally posted by Randall:So, Mueller indicted 13 Russian individuals and companies thinking they wouldn't show up, because he needed Russian scapegoats. Well, one did show up and demanded proof! Mueller protested. He indicted them by falsely using the Grand Jury process, but Mueller has no evidence to prosecute! The judge wouldn't hear excuses. And the Russian corporation has Discovery requests. Mueller is a hack. 53% of Americans agree with you that Mueller is a hack...a political hack!CatalinaReally? And you know this, how? And..what judge?“Grand juries summon witnesses and documents with subpoenas. Witnesses, including custodians of documents, report on the scheduled date not to a courtroom, but to a hallway outside the room where the grand jury is sitting. The witness must enter the grand jury room alone, without his or her lawyer. No judge presides and none is present. . . . Grand jury proceedings have been held in secret since the 1600s. The secrecy rule, adopted from England, has become an integral — some say essential — part of the American criminal justice system. There is no First Amendment right of public access to grand jury proceedings. Participants, except witnesses, are forbidden from disclosing matters related to the grand jury, even after the grand jury’s activities have concluded.The U.S. Supreme Court in 1979 identified several reasons for maintaining such secrecy. First, without the assurance of confidentiality, many prospective witnesses would hesitate to come forward willingly, knowing that the people against whom they testify would find out about it; second, those who did come forward would be less likely to testify “fully and frankly” because they would be vulnerable to retribution and inducements; third, people about to be indicted might flee, or try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment; and finally, it protects those who are accused, but not indicted, from public scorn. (Douglas Oil v. Petrol Stops Northwest) http://www.rcfp.org/secret-justice-grand-juries/access-grand-jury-information-and-material CatalinaMueller.. whom you love/live to call A Dem.. is a lifelong Republican who has worked under administration of both "sides". interesting expose here of the ridiculous suspicions cast on his team too. Defending a Democrat is not an indication of friendship.. it's a jobAttending parties does not expose affiliation. Seems there were a couple who didn't like Trump who were axed from the team.. hardly a revelation of bias in their boss's part. They all work together you know, the football mentality you wallow in is for the hoi polloi only http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/ 12/08/more-clinton-ties-on-mueller-team-one-deputy-attended-clinton-party-another-repd-top-aide.html jwhopMueller's entire investigating team are democrats...many with ties to the Clintons or Clinton sycophants.As for Mueller, he's a republican like any number of democrats with an R behind his name. In fact, Mueller was one of the weasels who colluded with Hillary The Corrupt to sell off 20% of the US Uranium production....TO RUSSIA!.RandallDems are always out of the loop, because all the "news" they watch is slop--like stormy weather. Y'all probably found out about the three released NK hostages here at LL. Randall http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/05/10/robert-mueller-court-russian-company-trump-probe-joe-digenova-says Catalina http://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/995853600554405889 jwhopSeth Abramson, just one of the many Russia/Trump conspiracy nuts.Where do you find these phonies?Funny, Mueller...with his brigade of democrat investigators, subpoena power, grand juries...hasn't been able to find a damned thing on Trump.iQMueller's job is not to find something on Trump. His mandate is to investigate every crime connected to Russian Mafia between the time of the Trump Tower meeting of Trump Junior with the Russian Spy/Lawyers till the firing of Comey. The Mandate also allows for investigating any crime committed by the criminals unmasked in this investigation even if they committed them much before October 2016.Why should Mueller find anything on Trump? What if Trump is actually innocent and those like Cohen and Manafort etc have been using Trump's names to commit financial crimes?And should all criminals who looted the US or who used bribes to push certain multinationals ahead [worse than insider trading] all go unpunished because Trump did not collude with Russia? What if Russian Hackers hacked the EVMs and enabled a Trump win? What if they do that for Democrats next time round? Should that be permitted just because Trump is innocent?Let Mueller do his job. The man is a War Hero, he did not ditch his Nation using bonespurs as an excuse.RandallMueller also had a Russian company that doesn't exist indicted!
quote:Originally posted by Randall:So, Mueller indicted 13 Russian individuals and companies thinking they wouldn't show up, because he needed Russian scapegoats. Well, one did show up and demanded proof! Mueller protested. He indicted them by falsely using the Grand Jury process, but Mueller has no evidence to prosecute! The judge wouldn't hear excuses. And the Russian corporation has Discovery requests. Mueller is a hack.
53% of Americans agree with you that Mueller is a hack...a political hack!
“Grand juries summon witnesses and documents with subpoenas. Witnesses, including custodians of documents, report on the scheduled date not to a courtroom, but to a hallway outside the room where the grand jury is sitting. The witness must enter the grand jury room alone, without his or her lawyer. No judge presides and none is present. . . .
Grand jury proceedings have been held in secret since the 1600s. The secrecy rule, adopted from England, has become an integral — some say essential — part of the American criminal justice system. There is no First Amendment right of public access to grand jury proceedings. Participants, except witnesses, are forbidden from disclosing matters related to the grand jury, even after the grand jury’s activities have concluded.
The U.S. Supreme Court in 1979 identified several reasons for maintaining such secrecy. First, without the assurance of confidentiality, many prospective witnesses would hesitate to come forward willingly, knowing that the people against whom they testify would find out about it; second, those who did come forward would be less likely to testify “fully and frankly” because they would be vulnerable to retribution and inducements; third, people about to be indicted might flee, or try to influence individual grand jurors to vote against indictment; and finally, it protects those who are accused, but not indicted, from public scorn. (Douglas Oil v. Petrol Stops Northwest) http://www.rcfp.org/secret-justice-grand-juries/access-grand-jury-information-and-material
Defending a Democrat is not an indication of friendship.. it's a job
Attending parties does not expose affiliation.
Seems there were a couple who didn't like Trump who were axed from the team.. hardly a revelation of bias in their boss's part.
They all work together you know, the football mentality you wallow in is for the hoi polloi only http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/ 12/08/more-clinton-ties-on-mueller-team-one-deputy-attended-clinton-party-another-repd-top-aide.html
As for Mueller, he's a republican like any number of democrats with an R behind his name. In fact, Mueller was one of the weasels who colluded with Hillary The Corrupt to sell off 20% of the US Uranium production....TO RUSSIA!.
Where do you find these phonies?
Funny, Mueller...with his brigade of democrat investigators, subpoena power, grand juries...hasn't been able to find a damned thing on Trump.
Why should Mueller find anything on Trump?
What if Trump is actually innocent and those like Cohen and Manafort etc have been using Trump's names to commit financial crimes?
And should all criminals who looted the US or who used bribes to push certain multinationals ahead [worse than insider trading] all go unpunished because Trump did not collude with Russia?
What if Russian Hackers hacked the EVMs and enabled a Trump win? What if they do that for Democrats next time round? Should that be permitted just because Trump is innocent?
Let Mueller do his job. The man is a War Hero, he did not ditch his Nation using bonespurs as an excuse.
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